Raygoza’s Motto – “Bullshit Baffles Brains”?

Not much new I can report today … except that Raygoza’s blog material at johnraygoza.com has disappeared, replaced by a WordPress blog starter page; and there’s a new review of jumplaunch’s services as well as a new comment on topix.

What follows is a repost of one of my earlier most popular posts – dealing with the sociopathic character of guys like John Raygoza and Ted Molina who apparently are totally amoral individuals – meaning they don’t even have a concept of right and wrong – they just troll the waters of the internet marketing newcomerss, stalking and attacking at will. No empathy, no remorse; just celebration of the “kill” when they empty your credit card account.

Many of us who got scammed by PushTraffic, IncFortune, SuccessRate,  DotIntel or any of the other Raygoza companies, may have wondered how on earth we could possibly have been taken in by these jerks.

I’ve been doing some reading and this is one site that gives great information:

(This is the site’s main fraud and fraudsters’ information page)

http://www.fraudaid.com/backstage/fraud_secrets.htm


This quote is from the “Why Con Artists Scam” section. Con artists are:

An unusually sick group

Quoting studies by Richard Blum (Deceivers and Deceived: Observations on Confidence Men and Their Victims, Informants and Their Quarry, Political and Industrial Spies and Ordinary Citizens), Chuck Whitlock points out that most con artists are:

… impulsive, amoral, uncontrolled and detached from normal

The essential feature of Antisocial Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others

This pattern has also been referred to as psychopathy, sociopathy, or dissocial personality disorder…

Individuals with Antisocial Personality Disorder frequently lack empathy and tend to be callous, cynical, and contemptuous of the feelings, rights, and sufferings of others.”

Chuck Whitlock, Chuck Whitlock’s Scam School, 1997, macmillan, New York, NY, pages 20, 21; Richard H. Blum, Deceivers and Deceived: Observations on Confidence Men and Their Victims, Informants and Their Quarry, Political and Industrial Spies and Ordinary Citizens, (Springfield: Charles C. Thomas, 1972), pp 49-50.http://www.fraudaid.com/backstage/why_con_artists_scam-01.htm


There is a terrific section describing how you get to be the “chosen one” by the scammer. There is ONE word to describe the scammers’ target – NEEDY! Now, in case that word makes you feel defensive, don’t let it – those of us who fell for Raygoza’s ploy were “needy,”  but only in the sense of needing information and guidance in our attempts to build a business online.

How did Raygoza know we were in need of help? He had our names and phone numbers supplied by people we had purchased information from. Since 95% of those who try to get a business going online FAIL, it was a pretty safe bet that most of the purchasers were still muddling through with only part of the information required. All he and his henchmen had to do was place a phonecall, using the name of someone we were familiar with, then ply the scammer’s skills to make us believe we were going to get the help we needed.

Once they gained our trust, and access to our banks or credit cards  it was game over for them – celebration  – another sucker bites the dust. The only thing left for them to do was keep us waiting, and “manipulate their victims to keep them from filing fraud reports using shame guilt and fear!” (quote from the site above)

Check out Why so few scammers go to jail“!

In a nutshell – most victims of a scam feel absolutely powerless in the face of the “unbelievable” action or non-action of the scammer when confronted. We’re not the same kind of sickos these guys are, and don’t understand how anyone could deal in such an amoral way.

Raygoza and his thugs conned us, then just plain blew us off. While giving us “the finger” and lying to anyone questioning, they were busy telling us things like “get over it”. Most of us were ashamed of being scammed in the first place; and for various reasons, (including thinking reporting it to the police might piss the scammer off and make him less likely to refund our money!) haven’t taken the time and considerable effort to get the word out there by reporting the scam everywhere possible.

Well, I too, say get over it! Get over your shame and fear and work with us to at least shut down this monster, Raygoza, and his scams.

Okay, to close out, an interesting thought (copied from one of the emails circulating). I didn’t know the answer ’til reading it, but I’d bet a bunch Raygoza knew the answer immediately!

PSYCHOPATH TEST

Read this question, come up with an answer and then scroll down to the bottom for the result. This is not a trick question.  It is as it reads.  No one I know has gotten it right.  Few people do.

A woman, while at the funeral of her own mother, met a guy whom she did not know.   She thought this guy was amazing.  She believed him to be her dream guy so much that she fell in love with him right there, but never asked for his number and could not find him.  A few days later she killed her sister.

Question: What is her motive for killing her sister? [Give this some thought before you answer, see answer below]

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She was hoping the guy would appear at the funeral again. If you answered this correctly,  you think like a psychopath. This was a test by a famous American psychologist used to determine if one has the same mentality as a killer.  Many arrested serial killers took part in the test and answered the question correctly.  If you didn’t answer the question correctly,  good for you….

Report your case (if you haven’t already) to Det. John Barragan, 30146@lapd.lacity.org

COMMENTS: (copied here to be visible immediately)

Ann  On January 25, 2011 at 23:09

  • Sandy, I wish I could agree that “Scumbag” is a complete fool. Unfortunately, he knew exactly what he was doing when he scammed us, and knowing the mistakes the scumbags before him had made that got them convicted, he has tried to cover his ass by “crossing T’s and dotting I’s” legally. He admitted knowing about the scammers who got nailed in Utah in our phone conversation.

    His victims have to trust that the fact that financial institutions have cut him off, and countless people who naively trusted what he said have come forward from every corner of the globe to condemn his lies and theft, will convince the justice system that the man, and his brother Ted, are common criminals and con men – just one step “above”? muggers on any innercity corner.

Sandy On January 24, 2011 at 18:52

  • It is amazing that John Raygoza or, “Scumbag”, as I like to refer to him…just doesn’t get it! He must be SICK in the head. He, obviously, doesn’t realize how ridiculous he sounds when he opens his mouth. He is digging himself a hole. His lawyers should…and I say…should, be smart enough to tell this lunatic…TO KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT.  He is making himself look like the “complete fool” that he is.  He is laughable.
    Sandy

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  • Ann  On January 25, 2011 at 23:09

    Sandy, I wish I could agree that “Scumbag” is a complete fool. Unfortunately, he knew exactly what he was doing when he scammed us, and knowing the mistakes the scumbags before him had made that got them convicted, he has tried to cover his ass by “crossing T’s and dotting I’s” legally. He admitted knowing about the scammers who got nailed in Utah in our phone conversation.

    His victims have to trust that the fact that financial institutions have cut him off, and countless people who naively trusted what he said have come forward from every corner of the globe to condemn his lies and theft, will convince the justice system that the man, and his brother Ted, are common criminals and con men – just one step “above”? muggers on any innercity corner.

  • Sandy  On January 24, 2011 at 18:52

    It is amazing that John Raygoza or, “Scumbag”, as I like to refer to him…just doesn’t get it! He must be SICK in the head. He, obviously, doesn’t realize how ridiculous he sounds when he opens his mouth. He is digging himself a hole. His lawyers should…and I say…should, be smart enough to tell this lunatic…TO KEEP HIS MOUTH SHUT. He is making himself look like the “complete fool” that he is. He is laughable.
    Sandy

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