Sales Mango – Testimonials For Themselves! Wow!!

And self given awards!!

This is an update of the earlier post – someone has had the good sense? to remove the little seals representing the awards they lied about winning from the bottom of the pages on the Sales Mango website. The domain was registered to John Raygoza’s mother; so who runs it – Raygoza and his thug partners, Ted Molina and David Sipes?

The seals are still displayed on the “Customers” page. But, without them the only things on that page would be the quotes from the scammers themselves – praising themselves and their company. Reminds me of “If you believe that, I’ve got a bridge ….” LOL

For those who know John Raygoza, Ted Molina, David Sipes and the scams perpetrated by them through web businesses like Push Traffic, JumpLaunch, SuccessRate and IncFortune (to name but a few) the sales or home page of Sales Mango will elicit gales of laughter! (maybe make them fall off their chairs laughing??)

The target at Sales Mango is small business. I’ll give you the link in a moment, but first want to point out a couple of things to look for:

Click on the “Customer” tab and you’ll see glowing testimonials and recommendations (red highlight is mine):

SalesMango is easy, secure, robust, and my staff LOVES it!

I needed a CRM that was easy to use. Where anyone from a salesperson to a top-level manager can you, without having to hire someone to fly out to our office to teach us how to use the software. SalesMango is easy, secure, robust, and my staff LOVES it!

David Sipes, CEO, JumpLaunch.com – web hosting company owned by Sipes’ partner, John Raygoza (no longer online)

It was built with ease in mind!

My sales people love SalesMango. It was built with ease in mind! Plus the reporting is great for my management team!

Ted Molina, VP of Marketing SuccessRate – a consulting company owned by Ted’s brother John Raygoza (no longer online)

This is well designed and well built …

The greatest Sales CRM ever invtented!

Joel Merchant, IncFortune.com – Operations Manager of company owned by John Raygoza (no longer online)

Dear Reader, are you still in your chair? 🙂 The testimonials are from none other than David Sipes, Ted Molina and Joel Merchant – all associates and/or partners in not only Raygoza’s scams, but Sales Mango’s ownership. Same stuff repeated on “learn more” page.

Now to the “Awards” (still claimed beside those wonderful words of praise above) …. I decided to look up the award winners – guess these little “seals” must be for decoration or something.

At the CRM Excellence awards site – no Sales Mango mention, no award

At CODiE 2009 site – no mention of Sales Mango at all – no award

Gold Proactive Protection Award site – “Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2009’s proactive protection wins gold award …” guess they’re just saying they use award-winning Kaspersky?  Sales Mango – no award

Business Software Satisfaction Awards 2009 site – again no mention – no award for Sales Mango

2009 CRM Market Leader – and again no mention of Sales Mango or its principles – again no award

I assumed the award claims were the usual Raygoza fraudulent claims, and in this case my assumptions proved valid – their claims didn’t.

The other little seals on the page are guarantees – is it possible they’re as legitimate, and mean as much, as the award ones?

***Promised link: http://www.salesmango.com/default.aspx

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• Chris On April 11, 2011 at 02:00 (this comment copied from another post)

  Just took a look at SalesMango site. Its construction is strikingly similar to the ignominious, disused and mis-used Pushtraffic site.
  I clicked on “help center” tab and got a technical problem. It is obviously not set up properly. Typical.
  Reminds me of that defunct Pushtraffic support ticket system, where I left 2 critical questions never to be answered. More defunct customer service from a professionally defunct Customer Service Manager.

• Ann On March 28, 2011 at 17:34

  @anonymous

  A reader actually emailed the sites who supposedly gave these awards to Sales Mango.

  The responses? “Never heard of Sales Mango” and “thanks for bringing it to our attention”.

  Gosh, who’d a thunk it, eh? LOL These guys are total idiots if they think no one’s checking on their foolishness.

  Hard to believe they would build a site so easily proven to be total garbage, and expect the online community to swallow the swill.

• Sandy On March 10, 2011 at 15:43

These crazy bastards are over the top, they are one retarded bunch of idiots! One thing is for sure, it is beyond belief that these guys are still trying to do business using their actual names. Do they not realize that their names are plastered all over a lawsuit. Is this site (salesmango) just a decoy for some other scam…because I can’t believe, even these idiots, would but their names in the forefront like that when they are in the middle of being sued. Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!! LOL
Sandy

• Ann On March 10, 2011 at 13:43

  Not yet, but that would likely at least get their memberships, if they even have memberships, pulled. I hate wasting more time on these losers, but will consider the suggestion.

• anonymous On March 10, 2011 at 13:13

  Nice writeup. Have you tried contacting the actual sites that Raygoza claims gave his company an award? I’m sure they wouldn’t be happy to see how he is tarnishing their name brand.

Sipes’ Lawyers Withdrawing For Non-Payment?

2 New Documents posted on PushTrafficSwindle.com

The first is David Sipes’ lawyer’s “declaration…in support of  his motion to withdraw as Counsel of Record”.

Why?

Seems Sipes isn’t paying lawyers’ bills for himself or Finity Consulting!

Sipes’ glowing testimonial is still showing on Sales Mango’s site. About as impressive as the phony award claims still there.

The second (as I understand it) is the court’s granting of a 21 day “expansion” (extension?) of the time given to the defendants’ lawyers to respond to the amended complaint.

It is to be expected that there will be some stalling tactics, but giving your lawyer reason to stop representing you doesn’t seem like a wise move. However, that’s just my opinion.

 

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• Chris On April 11, 2011 at 02:00

  Just took a look at SalesMango site. Its construction is strikingly similar to the ignominious, disused and mis-used Pushtraffic site.
  I clicked on “help center” tab and got a technical problem. It is obviously not set up properly. Typical.
  Reminds me of that defunct Pushtraffic support ticket system, where I left 2 critical questions never to be answered. More defunct customer service from a professionally defunct Customer Service Manager.

A New Name to Bring This Record Into the Present Reality

The company named Push Traffic Inc. and pushtraffic.com  is infamous for being the billing entity used by John Raygoza and Ted Molina in their call center/boiler room operations for a number of years.

However, today most of the known-to-me Raygoza sites are no longer online. Sales Mango is a notable exception, but even there the upfront names on the site (masquerading as satisfied customers) are business partner David Sipes, Raygoza’s brother Ted Molina and employee? partner? toady? Joel Merchant which are obviously not well enough publicized for being involved with the Raygoza scams.

Regardless, the real purpose of this blog was to help prevent Raygoza’s scammers from continuing to sucker punch and throw low blows at inexperienced and vulnerable online entrepreneurs. Since Push Traffic is no longer a visible presence online, the name wouldn’t be searched by “newbies” attempting to check out the integrity of offers coming their way. Happily Raygoza’s name is already recognized for his criminal tactics. Sipes’  and Molina’s not so much.

Anyway – it’s time for at least a name change for the onlinelowblowsandsuckerpunches address. For the present I’ll just replace “Push Traffic” with “Raygoza.” Perhaps a reader can suggest something more recognizable to present day searchers.

As I pointed out in an earlier post, David Sipes is likely now leading the operation of collection of contacts. What Raygoza is now operating as remains to be seen, but the sayings about leopard’s spots and “old dogs” make me think we WILL hear of  new Raygoza schemes to max out clients’ credit cards. He still figures he’s above the law, and that anyone who falls for his sales pitch deserves to lose everything.  So far, the authorities have done little to prove him wrong

Just sayin’

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Chris On March 20, 2011 at 01:40

The phony testimonials in the article above reminded me of the cynically unethical approach Pushtraffic’s Patrick Tuminaro took to setting up a blog. To begin with, Tuminaro suggested I promote Raygoza’s own product, The Truth. However, by this time, I was already more than skeptical about the whole shebang, so I recoiled from touching any product with Raygoza’s name on it.

Regarding the other products, Tuminaro put forward a set of criteria: ease of use: performance, value for money, etc. To assign an evaluation out of 10 for each thing I was to promote, I asked what values go on each criterion? He replied ‘anything you like.’

So I would only be endorsing products that I had never even used before with merits of 9 or 10 out of 10 ! That’s sales ethics for you!
Tuminaro walked away from the whole thing shortly thereafter,  just about when he heard I had demanded a refund.

What I wanted to ask Tuminaro was this: if these hot products – internet business – actually worked, why does he not use them himself, with his alleged skills? And why did I need to pay thousands of dollars for a service which seemed no better than I could get from buying a $200 IM package? Tuminaro liked to think of himself as a guru, so why did he need to work 40 hours a week with Raygoza? I never got to ask, but the clear answer, of course, is the skills of Pushtraffic’s members lay in confidence trickery, rather than internet marketing.

David Sipes (Lane Gibbons) Trolling for New Marks?

David Sipes is one of 3 men named in a class action suit brought by 50 some named individuals (including me) and countless un-named for defrauding us all of hundreds of thousands of dollars (at a minimum). Details at  Push Traffic Swindle.

The MO of these thieves was to obtain (by various means) the names and numbers of individuals who had bought relatively inexpensive marketing materials online. Raygoza, Molina and their sales agents would then phone, make verbal promises of marketing assistance (since verbal only – no proof).

Having gained the trust of the aspiring  marketer, the caller proceeded to max out the marks’ credit or debit accounts – persuading the mark to sign a document falsely represented as a “non-disclosure/confidentiality agreement.”  That document was crafted purely for use as the “proof” they would offer the bank and credit card companies that their “marks” had agreed to having their accounts maxed out and overdrawn.

I received an email this week which I looked at carefully after becoming suspicious of the offer:

• Name on the spammy email ( subject line “You got an affiliate sale…” ) is “Lane Gibbons.”  (could it be the “Laney” on the Beware Of  list?)

• email address for Gibbons is lane@netgold365.com (see posts at http://www.imreportcard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3384 )

• Actual address given for Gibbons at the bottom of the email is:  18811 Salt Lake Place, Northridge, CA 91326, USA (see  the registration address for David Sipes’ Finity Consulting at the end of this post)

• The links in Gibbons’ email take you to a sales page at http://zerofrictionmarketing.com/?hop=finityweb (interesting  the Clickbank affiliate ID is uncloaked – one of the first things any affiliate is taught is “cloak” links) a program supposedly authored by someone named Saj Purkayastha.

• Affiliate payment, if you check, goes to affiliate “finityweb”. The fact that it is a Clickbank product and Clickbank definitely gives refunds lends some legitimacy to the transaction.

• HOWEVER! The aweber “unsubscribe” option in the email gives this info:

Subscriber Information

Signup Date: 11-12-2010 11:46 AM EST
Signup Website:http://www.finityconsulting.com/marketing.php

Email: a*******g@gmail.com
Name: Ann
List Name: finityconsult

You may draw your own conclusions.

My conclusions:

• Raygoza, Sipes, Molina et al are still very much online – just in different forms

• Although the “program” above is a legitimate Clickbank product, when you purchase (or even receive a refund if you ask) Sipes, Raygoza and Molina will gain new contacts (with or without Saj’s cooperation) and be in position to carry on with their fraudulent phishing operations

• Should you decide not to purchase, you would likely give a name and email to get the free stuff offered in a “drop down” – another link to you

• The affiliate link is not cloaked because Sipes is not so much interested in the Clickbank commission as he is in the information about the purchaser. Should one expect a future phonecall from someone calling himself “Lane” who expresses interest in the purchaser’s progress and offering help!!??

• “The more things change, the more they remain the same.”

• In my opinion, these guys have 2 companies online which could take up where Push Traffic left off – as billing entities of the scams Push Traffic perpetrated before disappearing – Sales Mango and Finity Consulting.  Sipes’ Finity Consulting is already named in the class action suit. Details here

As I said – draw your own conclusions

*****Information re ownership, registration etc. for Finity Consulting:

Name:	FINITY CONSULTING, LLC
Name Type:	LEGAL
standard business address:	18811 SALT LAKE PL PORTER RANCH, CA 91326-2432
original business address:	18811 SALT LAKE PLACE PORTER RANCH CA 91326
mailing address:	18811 SALT LAKE PLACE PORTER RANCH 91326
Business Type:	DOMESTIC LLC
Filing Date:	11/30/2007
Filing Type:	DOMESTIC
Status:	ACTIVE
Place Incorporated:	CALIFORNIA
Foreign/Domestic:	DOMESTIC
Amendments Filed:	1
Additional Information:	ALL MEMBERS ARE MANAGER
Purpose:	INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY CONSULTING
Registered Agent
Name:	SIPES, DAVID
Title:	REGISTERED AGENT
registered agent address	18811 SALT LAKE PLACE PORTER RANCH CA 91326